Interview on Sean Croxton’s Underground Wellness show tonight!

May 26, 2011 in Events, Classes & Groups | 14 comments

underground wellness logoI’m going to be interviewed by the unstoppable force that is Sean Croxton on his radio show Underground Wellness (UW) tonight at 5:00pm PST / 8:00pm EST.

If you don’t know Sean, you should. He’s a mover and shaker in the holistic nutrition world. His radio show is #1 in Health on BlogTalk radio when in season, and in the top 25 in the Health & Fitness category in iTunes. He has also just started a TV show, with an interview of Gary Taubes and Todd Durkin to debut. Upcoming guests include Mark Sisson, Brett Klika, Steve Cotter, David Getoff, and Dr. Tom O’Bryan.

Sean will interview me for approximately 45 minutes and then he will open up the line for callers. If you’d like to call in, the number is 347.237.5608.

See you tonight!

{ 14 comments… read them below or add one }

Kristina May 27, 2011 at 9:46 am

Hi Chris,

I enjoyed listening to the interview. I noticed you said, and I have read this many times, that the gut needs to be healthy for overall health (or something similar). I switched to a Paleo diet back in 2003. I was dealing with some minor food intolerances but it was manageable and overall I felt good. I have also been on thyroid medication since about 1996 and am addressing adrenal issues as well.

In 2008 I started having more and more health issues mostly with digestion, a constantly distended abdomen which gets worse when I eat since 11/2008, and also what seems to be POTS. I went on GAPS in 2009 but despite a very strict and very limited diet (stages 1 and 2 of GAPS intro) I am not seeing improvement. The abdominal distention is so bad I dread eating, especially vegetables.

I am now wondering if I am addressing things from the wrong angle. Some of the symptoms of POTS include digestive issues such as constipation, diarrhea, bloating, distention, and more. Could the root cause of digestive issues actually be due to dysautonomia and an autonomic nervous system dysfunction in which case addressing the gut issues with diet and supplements won’t help?

Would love your thoughts on this.



Chris Kresser May 27, 2011 at 9:51 am


Yes, it may be more helpful to focus on the brain/HPA-axis in your case. If a patient doesn’t respond to gut healing protocols I test for pathogens. If no pathogens, I focus on the brain.


Kristina May 27, 2011 at 9:56 am

Hi Chris,

Thank you for the reply. I did have two parasites last year according to a Metametrix stool test. I took Humaworm and Oil of Oregano but it made no difference. However, I have note had a follow-up test.

Is POTS something you are familiar with and think you could help me with through phone consultations?



James May 27, 2011 at 3:12 pm

I had a stool test done recently. I wontmention the expected beneficial bacteria as that all looked good, but will you mind commenting on my commensal flora and yeast?

Under the commensal section I had + 1 of each of enterobacter cloacae, klebsiella pneumonia spp pneumoniae, and staphyococcus aurreus. I had none under the dysbiotic section (If any of the commensals were at +3 or +4 they would have been listed here though).

Under the yeast culture I had no candida, but a +4 of saccharomyces cerevisiae/boulardii.

My main symptoms arent any outright reaction to any food, but a gradual build up of bloat and some water retention. Could the large amount of the yeast I have explain that?

I didnt have any parasites.


James May 27, 2011 at 3:30 pm

Its also important to mention that I dont have a colon (It was removed when I was really young due to familial adenomatous polyposis). I didnt have any problems for most of my life either so my body had adapted to no colon.

Am i more susceptible to small bacterial overgrowth or anything (My small intestine is directly attached to my rectum) and do I need to approach probiotic supplementation differently?


James May 27, 2011 at 4:44 pm

And what are your fav. supplements for your clients (marhsmallow root, etc) when you know they have a leaky gut to help heal it along with the right diet.


garfinkel May 28, 2011 at 12:55 pm

I used to follow UW, but became suspicious about his peddling of Protandim. On the site, there is “proof” in the form of a diagnostics scan showing a 9.51 for lipid peroxides. In a comment there, I pointed out that the 9.51 on the scan was a darker grey, crisper, and an altogether different font from the rest of the scan. Rather than a response to my concern of tampering, my post was simply deleted.


RitaRose May 31, 2011 at 4:58 pm

I just listened to the podcast with Sean Croxton while I was at work today. I like 98% of what you have to say – I generally do – but I did have one issue.

When asked about bacon, your answer was that the fat was fine (I agree) and that the worry over the nitrates and nitrates wasn’t valid. While I understand it might not cause cancer, many people do have other reactions to certain preservatives. I know I get a 3-day migraine whenever I eat something with sodium nitrite in it, even if I think it doesn’t have any. Oscar Meyer got a nasty phone call from me when they advertised “No Added Nitrates or Nitrites” on it’s hot dogs about a year ago. I ate a couple and was mystified as to why my head felt like it had a hatchet embedded in it. My bad for not reading the small print, researching and knowing celery seed/salt was basically the same thing. Their bad for trying to make people think their product was free from something it still had.

So just an FYI that not all of the issues with sodium nitrite and other preservatives is about cancer. Many people are sensitive to them, and some don’t even realize it… yet.


Abbykadi June 2, 2011 at 2:00 pm

Hey Chris,

Just found you through UW and great podcast! Now, I’m excited to read your website.

Question: you mentioned white rice is ok for “most” people to eat – what are your thoughts about someone who has Hashimoto’s?



Chris Kresser June 2, 2011 at 2:05 pm

It depends on blood sugar regulation and gut function, so it’s impossible to make a general recommendation for someone with Hashimoto’s. Best way to find out is to experiment.


Abbykadi June 2, 2011 at 3:45 pm

Thanks for the quick answer!
Will do. Great website. :-)


Ron June 2, 2011 at 4:16 pm

Chris: just listened to your interview with Sean and have a question about leaky gut. You spoke of a patient that had skin issues and you tested him for leaky gut. What is the testing protocol for leaky gut and what is the accuracy of the said protocol? Thanks for your time and all the info you provide.


Mary benedetti June 2, 2011 at 6:57 pm

Thanks in advance!


Henry D June 4, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Any good brands of kefir or yogurt? (grass-fed, no additives, and 24 hour fermented)

Henry D


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